Finding the perfect CMS

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  • webkenny

    “Drupal members relish large, bespoke projects – like custom builds – and it’s not in their interests to simplify something to the extent that customers can develop apps and websites for themselves.”

    What interests is the article writer suggesting here? Is this inference that we, as a community, withhold the golden ticket of self-publishing, to further our financial goals? That’s, quite frankly, a bit of FUD and the first bit of relishing large, bespoke projects is rubbish. We build tools to -prevent- that very thing. Drupal does get you 80% of the way there and, sure, the 20% is challenging but it’s a lot easier than challenging on 100%.

    Also, “Very often, the modules that developers contribute to the Drupal framework are built and maintained part-time, and as a result they are not always ‘plug and play’” – Welcome to open source. Did you want us to build your website for you as well? ;) (i.e. Would you like Fries with that?)

  • http://purkiss.com Steve Purkiss

    I think what most annoys me about this article is the title “Finding the perfect CMS”. I played with subhub a while back, and it’s not a “normal” use-case of Drupal – subhub is a system for people to create their own websites, so you’re trying to build a Drupal on top of a Drupal, which is going to make things hard.

    I think you were/are a bit before your time – if codeigniter serves you well then that’s cool, however I totally believe this is the sort of thing Drupal will be able to do out-of-the-box in a year or two’s time.

    I’m sorry you didn’t have a great time with Drupal as many thousands do, it’s a shame you didn’t stick with it and help mould Drupal into something which would be your ideal tool, but that’s your choice. For me, the community is what makes Drupal, and having met many of them over the last few years I feel good in the fact I know anything I want to achieve I can achieve it with Drupal – given the time, effort, passion and understanding of how the Drupal community works.

  • marcvangend

    Thanks for writing this. No product can be perfect for every one, but as a member of the Drupal community, I like to read about your experiences. That’s how we can learn and improve.

    That said, I’m a bit surprised by two statements in the last paragraph. First of all, you write that Drupal is not becoming any more popular, but do you have statistics to support that statement? Many articles I read (eg. http://www.cmswire.com/cms/customer-experience/the-future-of-drupal-sustaining-effective-growth-016533.php) seem to disagree. Second, if you say that Drupal is not addressing its limitations, you clearly have not been following the news about Drupal 8.

    I wish you the best of luck with your website.

  • http://www.web-designer.com.sg/ Web Design

    I wanted to leave a little comment to support you and wish you a good continuation.

  • Kevin OLeary

    Echoing Steve, it’s really a shame you made this decision in the middle of the in the middle of the Drupal 8 release cycle.

    I understand your immediate business goal of serving your existing customer base but I’m fairly certain that you will kick yourself when you realize that the features you will throw money and people at developing and supporting come for free in D8.

    (full disclosure, I am the UX lead on Spark at Acquia and deeply involved in the development of Drupal 8)

  • http://uk.linkedin.com/in/jameseskinner/ James Skinner

    This is an interesting piece. In 2007 I led a project to abandon an in-house developed CMS platform in favour of Drupal, and to date over 1,000 Drupal sites have been delivered, including around 900 on a shared content distribution platform built on Drupal.

    However I do agree with Evan that certain aspects of Drupal are engineered for developers rather than end users. I understand that 8 has a lot of UX work going into it but in terms of basic usability for web editors and bloggers, WordPress is streets ahead. I was also regularly astonished at how long it could take to achieve simple things, such as setting up a straightforward, **good looking** blog. As someone who can quite capably build sites using WordPress, I could just never get a decent install of Drupal sorted.

    And as a business leader, acquiring and retaining great Drupal people is getting harder and harder. Like Evan, we were somewhat hamstrung being in the South West rather than London, but nonetheless it seemed like every Bristol agency had to fight each other to get hold of new people. The underlying popularity popularity of Drupal has to be a factor here.

    For me, Drupal has a **lot** to do to catch up with WordPress, let alone regain a position ahead of it as a leading CMS.

  • http://www.logicsofts.co.uk/cms.html Sam

    I believe the technologies are made for people or users and it is depended upon requirements to select the one…….

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  • Paul

    Why bring up WordPress and cast it in a favourable light because it provides commercial incentives even when it couldn’t have done what you wanted either?

  • http://fullfatthings.com/ Stewart Robinson

    This is just another published example of how companies can fail with open source software where others succeed and profit.

    There are good companies who can build on top of software and there are ones who fail.

    My opinion is that this article doesn’t really have anything to do with Drupal. I think it probably signals a lack of technical leadership, building for quality and understanding how to interact with a community.

    I can’t wait for the next article in 2015 about dumping Code Igniter for Symfony or similar.

  • wiseguy

    what an idiot!

  • Luke

    There is a proverb that says, “do not bite the hand that feeds you.”

    If I understand … Drupal has been key to the success of its business until 2012.

    Mr. Rudowski you have a remarkable capacity for analysis. I hope for you that the majority of your customers will not bind this interview. What will happen the day that your customers will not agree with you? Did you tell him … thank you for all the money you gave me during these years … your website is based on a proprietary technology … and it belongs to me … Now start working … thank you and good luck … ?

    If I do not have “Finding the perfect CMS,” I always know there’s a company that I do not want to do business!

    Good luck Mr. pdg,

    (Sorry for the quality of my English is not my native language.)